History of the Early Church Invalidates Papal Claim of Apostolic Succession

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The Pope’s visit to the U.S.A., April 15–20, placed him in the limelight of his so-called apostolic succession from Peter.  It is actually required in the Catholic Church that one believes in an historical continuity between the early Church and the Church of Rome.  Most Catholics presume that this is an historical fact.  Regrettably, many Bible believers have not really analyzed the question.  Our article, which studies the authentic early Church, is one of the most important articles that we have written.  We depend on the conviction that truth is derived from God alone and on His strength alone.  We trust that He will use this article to pull down the strongholds of man-devised apostolic succession, and the Papal re-writing and amending of early Church history to shore up this dogma.  “For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds.”  The article called, “History of the Early Church Invalidates Papal Claim of Apostolic Succession,” is given below.
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Trusting in the Lord’s grace and mighty power,
Richard Bennett

History of the Early Church Invalidates
Papal Claim of Apostolic Succession

From April 15-20, 2008 Benedict XVI visited the United States and the United Nations as the Pope of the Roman Catholic Church and first representative of the Holy See.  Thus the President welcomed him with the words, “This is your first trip to the United States since you ascended to the Chair of Saint Peter.”1  Both Benedict’s title and his chair are granted by the dogma of apostolic succession. 
In fact, it is required in the Catholic Church that one believes in an historical continuity between the early Church and the Roman Catholic Church as defined by the papal dogma of apostolic succession.2  Catholics are taught not to question this dogma.  Based on it, the present Pope has flatly stated that “Christian Communities born out of the Reformation of the sixteenth century cannot be called ‘Churches’ in the proper sense…[they] do not enjoy apostolic succession in the sacrament of Orders, and are, therefore, deprived of a constitutive element of the church.”3  He is not speaking in a vacuum, but rather in a time when many people are being seduced through dialogue and other methods into the Roman Catholic Church.  For example, the American President said to him, “Most of all, Holy Father, you will find in America people whose hearts are open to your message of hope.  And America and the world need this message.” 4  The Pope’s message was consistently vacuous, totally without the Gospel of grace, stooping even to pray for the dead at Ground Zero.  His words were, “O God of love, compassion, and healing, look on us, people of many different faiths and traditions, who gather today at this site, the scene of incredible violence and pain.  We ask you in your goodness to give eternal light and peace to all who died here…”5
As they are, these words based in anti-biblical doctrine come from a man who claims to be head of the true church of Christ Jesus.  His actions, too, in performing the Mass, which is heretical, are perfectly consistent with his position against the Reformation blossoming of the true churches in the sixteenth century, whose biblical heritage is undeniable.  Therefore in this presentation we want to document the New Testament concept of church and give historical data showing that the biblical concept of church was indeed lived in the times after the Apostles and prior to the Reformation. 

Biblical Concept of Church 
Christ Jesus founded His church on the Gospel message that He is “the Christ” (the Anointed-Messiah) and “the Son of the Living God.”6  After the Lord’s glorification, the Holy Spirit empowered all the believers that were assembled at Jerusalem to take the Gospel throughout the world.  According to the New Testament, the first church to be established was the church in Jerusalem.  It was from there that the believers went forth with the Gospel.  They were the “church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles.”7  The New Testament also records the establishment of the local churches in Judea and Samaria.  The Gospel then spread to cities in Cypress and to Antioch.  When the believers in Jerusalem heard that the people in Antioch had received the Gospel, they sent Barnabas to them.  Barnabas first went to Tarsus to fetch Paul.  Together they spent a whole year at Antioch teaching the Gospel of grace though faith alone in Christ Jesus.  It was there that those who believed the Gospel were first called Christians.  The Apostle Paul appointed elders8 and deacons in these local churches.  These offices, however, are not the very essence of the church; rather, they function for teaching and administration so that the assembly is orderly.  The unifying center of the assembly of believers is not the structure of the group, as the Pope maintains, but rather it is the Gospel.

The Greek word “ekklesia” literally means “the called out ones.”  In the New Testament it is applied to the whole company of believers throughout the present era, of whom Christ said, “I will build my Church.”9  The Apostle Paul’s definition under the direction of the Holy Spirit is that the church is Christ’s body.10  Most regularly the word signifies the local assembly of believers.  The central feature of the New Testament letters is the Gospel of grace through faith alone as, for example, in the letter to the believers at Ephesus, “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:  Not of works, lest any man should boast.”11  The expression “the church of God” was collective, as when the Apostle wrote, “give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God,12 meaning the believers as distinguished from the Jews and Gentiles.  The ordinary believers are continually called the “church” as the Apostle addressed them, “unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus.”13  “And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans.”14The church was simply the community of believers.  All the messages given by the Lord through the Apostle John were also to local churches.15 
The unifying factor that designated early local churches was the Gospel.  These local churches believed and taught the Gospel of God’s grace.  That Gospel was for them “the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth.”16  Faith alone, consistent with the Scriptures, was the means by which the believers entered into the salvation purchased by the perfect life and sacrifice of Christ Jesus.  Across Europe and Asia, local churches were established as ordinary believers spread the Gospel. 

The Roman Catholic Concept of Church
The Vatican requires that Catholics profess that there is an historical continuity between the church founded by the Lord Jesus Christ and the Roman Catholic Church.  To assess the validity of the Catholic belief, it needs to be held firmly in mind that the Roman Catholic Church means something quite different by the word “Church” than the New Testament does.  While the teaching Magisterium does mention the Church as “the People of God,” “the Body of Christ,” and “the Temple of the Holy Spirit,” the emphasis is always on the authority and mission of the papal organizational system.  Thus Rome teaches, “He [Christ] instituted the Church.  He gave her authority and mission, orientation and goal…”17  How this claimed power structure is exercised is clearly laid out by the Roman Catholic system: “There is no offense, however serious, that the Church cannot forgive.”18  “Priests have received from God a power that he has given neither to angels nor to archangels…. God above confirms what priests do here below.”19  “‘Believing’ is an ecclesial act.  The Church’s faith precedes, engenders, supports and nourishes our faith.  The Church is the mother of all believers.  ‘No one can have God as Father who does not have the Church as Mother.’”20  The claimed absolute power of the papal hierarchical system is totally contrary to the New Testament concept of the church as “the assembly of believers.”  The Papacy’s lust for power is so insatiable that it claims power for itself, which rightfully belongs to the Holy Spirit.  Thus the Magisterium officially teaches, “For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered.”21  How does such dogma reflect any historical continuity with biblical doctrine and the practice of the authentic early church?

Early Believers and Scripture

The early believers held to the Scriptures as being the absolute Word of God’s truth.  The early Church understood apostolic doctrine as the written Word of God.  From the very start of the post-apostolic age in the writings of such Apostolic Fathers as Ignatius, Polycarp, Clement, and Barnabas, there was an exclusive appeal to the Scriptures for the positive teaching of doctrine and for defense against heresy.  In the writings of these men, the authority cited is that of the Old and New Testaments.  In the written texts of the apologists, such as Justin Martyr and Athenagoras, the same exclusive appeal to Scripture is evident.  There was no appeal in any of these writings to the authority of an extra-biblical tradition as a separate body of revelation.  Rather, it is in the writings of Irenaeus and Tertullian in the mid to late second century that the concept of an apostolic tradition, which was handed down in the Church in oral form, was first encountered.  Irenaeus and Tertullian stated forcefully that all the teachings of the bishops that were given orally were rooted in Scripture and could be proven from the written Scriptures.

Examples of Early Believers Testifying to the Gospel
Polycarp of Smyrna (born c. 69) died a martyr somewhere around the year 155.  He testified to being saved through grace and Christ Jesus, “…the Lord Jesus Christ…in whom you believe…knowing, that through grace ye are saved, not from works, but by the will of God, through Christ Jesus.”22 
            Clement of Rome, who died about the year 100, wrote of being justified by faith,  “…Therefore, we also, being called through his (God’s) will in Christ Jesus, are not justified through ourselves, neither through our own wisdom or understanding or piety or works…but through Faith.”23
            Justin Martyr (c. 100—165) wrote of being righteous before God on account of faith.  He stated, “It was not by reason of circumcision that Abraham was testified of God to be righteous, but on account of faith.  For, before he was circumcised, it was said of him: Abraham believed in God; and it was imputed unto him for righteousness.”24 

            Irenaeus, who died about the year 190, or as late as 202, clearly explained the Gospel message in Romans, Chapter Three: “When Christ came, he accomplished all things: and still, in the Church, continues to accomplish the New Testament, foretold by the Law, even to consummation.  As also the Apostle Paul says in his Epistle to the Romans: but now, without the Law, the righteousness of God is manifested, being testified of by the Law and the Prophets: for the just shall live by faith.  But, that the just shall live by faith, had been foretold by the Prophets.”25 
            Clement of Alexandria, a contemporary of Justin and Irenaeus in the late second and early third century, gave evidence to the Gospel of grace when he wrote, “Abraham was justified, not from works, but from faith.  After the end of life, therefore, it is no profit to men even though now they shall have performed good works, unless they have faith.”26 
            Athanasius, in the fourth century, likewise testifies of grace and redemption in a clear-cut Gospel message, “Not from these, but from faith, a man is justified; as also was Abraham.  Having thus discussed such points, the Apostle shews again: that, in no other manner, can there be redemption and grace to Israel and to the Gentiles, except the original sin, which through Adam passed unto all, be loosed.  But this, says he, can be blotted out though no other than through the Son of God…. For it was impossible, that any other should loose this transgression.  Thus, as through one man sin entered into the world: thus also, through one man, grace came upon all.”27

Extensive Growth and Severe Persecution
The spread of the Christian faith during the first three centuries was rapid and extensive.  In the providence of God, the main reasons for this were the fidelity and zeal of the preachers of the Gospel, the heroic deaths of the martyrs, the translation of the Scriptures into the languages of the Roman world, and the well-developed and expansive Roman road system over which the Gospel was carried.  Under the Emperor Septimius Severus (193-211), Christians suffered appallingly.  The most severe persecution was under the Emperor Diocletian and his co-regent, Galerius, during the years 303-311.  Yet, far from exterminating the Christians and the Gospel, the persecution purified those who preached and increased their ability to give the Gospel message.
 
Early Church: Northern Italy and the Cottian Alps
Since at least the late eleventh century,28 the Roman Catholic Church has loudly alleged that the early churches, in what is known today as Northern Italy,29 were simply those churches that had fallen away from the authority of the Bishop of Rome.  However, Peter Allix, writing in 1690, shows clearly that these churches were established locally from apostolic times and were not under the Bishop of Rome at any time before the eleventh century.  Of their doctrine and practice he states, “It is sufficient to make them deserve the name of apostolical, that they received the doctrine of the Apostles, as a pledge from the hand of their first disciples, which they preserved so very tenderly throughout the following ages.”30  Allix’s rebuttal of the Roman Catholic charge uses quotations from these churches’ liturgy and from records of the practice of their faith, which regularly included record of increasing disagreement with the Bishop of Rome.  At times, Allix quotes the records of the Roman Catholic Church against the believers, showing that the very things of which the Roman Church was accusing them were in fact biblical. 

According to Faber, in about the year 406, Vigilantius, a native of Aquitaine, published a treatise in answer to Jerome’s defense of his [Jerome’s] departure from Scripture.  In it, Vigilantius “attacked the notion that celibacy is the duty of the clergy; censured…the figment that they [martyrs] are potent intercessors at the throne of grace; ridiculed the blind and almost idolatrous reverence which was paid to their relics; exposed the folly of burning tapers, like the Pagans, before their shrines, in broad day-light; detected the pretended miracles said to be wrought by their senseless remains…pointed out the useless absurdity of pilgrimages either to Jerusalem or to any other reputed sanctuary.”31  Although Vigilantius’s treatise is no longer extant, this information comes from Jerome as he seeks to refute Vigilantius during the course of their exchanges.  According to Jerome, who resided in Jerusalem, Vigilantius “wrote from a region, situated between the waves of the Adriatic and the Cottian Alps.”32  Nor was Jerome able to have Vigilantius extirpated from this region, where he worked as a presbyter, because the bishop of the area agreed with Vigilantius.  Faber’s point is this: 
“This district [where Vigilantius was residing] on the eastern side of the Cottian Alps is the precise country of the Vallenses.  Here they claim to have lived at least from the time of Pope Sylvester; and here, in point of fact, as we may presumptively gather from the present remarkable statement of Jerome, that they were actually settled as early as in and before the year 406….
“Here, therefore, only seventy years after the death of Pope Sylvester, we actually find a Church in the valleys of the Cottian Alps, the theological condition of which exactly corresponds with the account handed down, from generation to generation, among the Vallenses themselves: that is to say, we actually find a Church, in the very region where the account teaches us to seek it, protesting, through the mouth of its approved pastor, Vigilantius…against the superstitions of the times, and, in its estimate of those superstitions, openly differing from the bishops of the corrupt Church of Rome.”33 

The Roman Catholic claim for dominion in the area is refuted by the written record of Jerome’s correspondence with Vigilantius.  Further, Pope Pelagius I (555) lamented that “The Bishops of Milan do not come to Rome for ordination,” and this was in accordance with “an ancient custom of theirs.”34  Allix further notes, “In the year 590, the Bishops of Italy and of the Grisons, to the number of nine, rejected the Communion of the Pope, as of an heretic…protesting [to the Emperor] that they could not communicate with Pope Gregory the First.”35 
Allix documents the fact that even in the ninth century the churches of Northern Italy were still not under the yoke of papal authority.  Rather they were able to hold out until after the death of Claude, Bishop of Turin.  Claude, in the mid-ninth century, staunchly defended his diocese against Rome while simultaneously and indefatigably teaching the Gospel and the Bible throughout his diocese by preaching and by writing.  Wylie confirms that it was not until the mid-eleventh century that the churches on the plains of Northern Italy finally succumbed to papal authority.  Even then the churches in the valleys of the Cottian Alps held true to the Bible in their faith and practice.  These are they who were known as the Vaudois, or People of the Valleys.36
Faber shows from the text of the Vaudois poem, Noble Lesson, which has imbedded in it the date of 1100, that the language in which the document is written is “derived, without any intervention of an older derivative language,from the decomposed stock of its parent Latin.”  This was the language of the Vaudois who had retreated to the valleys of Italian Cottian Alps during the second, third, and fourth centuries.  Since the Noble Lesson was one of their documents, it shows conclusively that the language of the Vaudois had not changed substantially in all the centuries they lived hidden in their valleys.  This confession of faith in poetic form was used to teach their children “the faith once delivered to the saints.”  Here, then, are conclusive pieces of evidence—Jerome’s recording of Vigilantius in 406, Claude Bishop of Turin in the early 800’s, and the language in which the Noble Lesson (written in 1100) and other earlier original documents which Samuel Morland procured in 1655—that the Vaudois or Vallenses really were preserved by God in the line of unbroken apostolic faith from the early centuries through the Reformation. 

            It should be noted, the Vaudois are sometimes called Waldenses.  The Roman Catholic Church’s consistent policy has been to try to confuse the origin of the early churches of the Valleys.  It contended that it was Peter Waldo who established these churches, thus maintaining that they were heretics rather than the true church.  However, the still extant historical facts make it clear that the Papacy’s long record of revisionist history is as false today as it was at its inception many centuries ago.  One very important fact is that Peter Waldo was not known before 1160 while the Noble Lesson was written in 1100.  In 1690 Allix contends, “it is not true that [Peter] Waldo gave this name to the inhabitants of the valleys: They were called Wallenses, or Vaudés, before his time, from the valleys in which they dwelt.  This we find…in Ebrardus de Bethune, who wrote in the year 1212, where he asserts, that they called themselves Wallenses…because they abode in the ‘valley of tears.’ so that we see that this etymology rather has respect to the place where they lived, which was in the valleys of Piedmont, than to the name of Peter Waldo.”37 
The testimony of the Vaudois, both in their writing and in their practice, showed that the authority of the Bible continued to be their rule of life.38  The first distinguishing principle of the Waldenses bore on their daily conduct, and was summed up in the words of the apostle: “We ought to obey God rather than men.”39  The second principle was the authority and popular use of the Holy Scriptures, which they had in their native language.  There were those among them who could quote the entire Bible from memory.  The third distinguishing principle was the importance of preaching and the rights of believing men to exercise that function.  To these fundamental principles, based on the Sermon on the Mount, the Vaudois added the rejection of oaths, the condemnation into purgatory, and prayers for the dead.  There are only two ways after death, they declared—the way to heaven and the way to hell.  The pre-Reformation Vaudois faith and practice touched many people through those dark centuries.  They regularly sent out missionaries (many of whom were merchants) to evangelize Europe, and these missionaries attracted converts from many sources.  They were, however, to suffer terribly for their faith. 

It is an historical fact that these churches of Northern Italy, which had remained faithful to the Scripture from the time of their establishment in the second, third, and fourth centuries through the Reformation, were the true churches.  The Papal Church clearly was, and is still today, the heretical schismatic.  It is the historical account of these ancient biblical churches in northern Italy and southern France that the Roman Catholic Church has been trying for at least the past nine centuries to wipe out—ethnic cleansing of them by crusades and six hundred years of Inquisition against them, by destruction of the records of their testimony, and by revisionist history.  It is by the providence of God that to this very day Papal Rome has not succeeded. 

The Paulician Churches from the First Century
The Paulician churches were of apostolic origin, and they were planted in Armenia in the first century.  “Through Antioch and Palmyra the faith must have spread into Mesopotamia and Persia; and in those regions become the basis of the faith as it is spread in the Taurus mountains as far as Ararat.  This was the primitive form of Christianity.  The churches in the Taurus range of mountains formed a huge recess or circular dam into which flowed the early Paulician faith to be caught and maintained for centuries, as it were, a backwater from the main for centuries.”40  The earliest center of Christianity in Armenia was at Taron, which was the constant home and base of operations of the Paulicians.  They claimed that they were of apostolic origin.  Upon this point Adeney says, “Therefore, it is quite arguable that they should be regarded as representing the survival of a most primitives type of Christianity…Ancient Oriental Baptists, these people were in many respects Protestants before Protestantism.”41 

In the eighth century the Paulicians, scattered by persecution, spread westward through Bulgaria and along the northern coast of the Mediterranean as far as the Pyrenees Mountains.  Many settled in southern France where they became known as the Albigenses.  All along the way, the Paulicians planted local churches, which continued strong in biblical doctrine and practice.42  They did not recognize persons of other communions as belonging to the churches.  “We do not belong to these,” they said.  “They have long ago broken connection with the church and have been excluded.”43

Pre-Reformation Missionaries to Europe
From the year 405, when Patrick arrived in Ireland, there were more than six hundred years of fruitfulness from the clarity of the Gospel message preached by Patrick and those who worked with him.  There were many famous Irish missionaries like Patrick, such as Columba, Columbanus, Kilian and Forannan, who carried the Gospel well up to the tenth century to Britain, Germany, France, Switzerland, Italy, and beyond with the same truthfulness as Patrick.  From at least the eleventh century onward, the Vaudois sent their missionaries, called Barbes, throughout Europe.  They carried the same Gospel message, as did the Irish missionaries.  In 1209, the Papacy began its first crusade against European believers, starting with the Albigenses in southern France.  Those who could escape did.  They spread the Gospel wherever they were scattered.  In about 1332, Pope John XXII sent his inquisitors into the territory of the Vaudois to execute the laws of the Inquisition against these believers.  From then on, the Vaudois were scattered throughout France, the Low Countries, Germany, Poland, Bohemia, Moravia, England, Calabria, Naples, and further.  They, too, spread the Gospel wherever they went.44

The Legacy of the Early Church

We have identified the true Church of the Lord Jesus Christ by two marks—they hold to the sole authority of Scriptures and to the true Gospel.  We have briefly documented the true Church of the Lord Jesus Christ as it existed in various countries before the Reformation of the sixteenth century.  Down through the centuries, these believers were scattered from Jerusalem to the Piedmont valley of Italy, to France, Spain, Scotland, Ireland, England, and throughout all of Europe.  We have documented various peoples honoring the true faith, and bearing the Scriptural truth. 

Conclusion
The stark reality of the facts of history of the true church permeated with the Gospel of God’s grace in doctrine and practice utterly voids the papal assertion of an historical continuity between the early believers and the papal church via their dogma of apostolic succession.  Rather the Roman Catholic Church is the proven schismatic from the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ. 

As the true church saw (prior to the Reformation and the Reformers), the papal system with its blasphemies against the redeeming work of the Lord Jesus Christ, its idolatry and Inquisition, its claim to apostolic succession—all these show “the woman” “sitting upon the scarlet-colored beast.”45  The same “woman drunken with the blood of the saints and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus46 is still today making merchandise of the souls of men while purporting to “dialogue” with true Christians as “brothers and sisters in Christ.”
However, the wary understand that the love for the Papacy is hazardous, such so, as to bring to mind the Scripture, “all the world wondered after the beast.”47  They have noted that, as with the funeral of John Paul II, so also with April 2008’s visit of Benedict XVI to the United States.  Both were widely received with such reverence and awe as to be called adoration. 

Like true believers of old, we must enter into battle.  The Lord is with us; we will have the final victory.  The command of the Holy Spirit is still this: “having done all, to stand.  Stand therefore.”48  The certainty that we know Him and are His should animate our efforts, and encourage us in our struggles.  The glory of God’s free grace in the Gospel, based on the written Word of Scripture alone, remains the legacy of the Early Church and is still available to all the Lord’s people. ♦

Richard Bennett of Berean Beacon ministry—Website: http://www.bereanbeacon.org 

 

2 “The Catholic faithful are required to profess that there is an historical continuity—rooted in the apostolic succession between the Church founded by Christ and the Catholic Church:…” Official Declaration “Dominus Iesus” 2000 §16.  Italic in the original.

3 “Responses to Some Questions Regarding Certain Aspects of the Doctrine on the Church.”
www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfait h_doc_20070629_responsa-quaestiones_en.html   8/10/2007

8 The terms overseer and elder/pastor are used interchangeably (Acts 20:17, 28; I Peter 5:1-4).

9  Matthew 16:18

17 Catechism of the Catholic Church (1994), Para 874

18 Catechism, Para 982

19 Catechism, Para 983

20 Catechism, Para 181

21 Catechism, Para 882

22 George Stanley Faber, The Primitive Doctrine of Justification, Investigated (London:  R. B. Seely and W. Burnside, 1837) Ch. IV, p. 87

23 Ibid., p. 80

24 Ibid., p. 89

25 Ibid., p. 94

26 Ibid, p. 96

27 Ibid, pp. 100-101

28 J. A. Wylie, History of Protestantism Vol. I, pp. 10-15.  See also Peter Allix, Some Remarks upon the Ecclesiastical History of the Ancient Church of Piedmont, originally printed in 1690; 1989 reprint of 1821 edition, p. 192.

29 Allix, Ancient Church of Piedmont, p. 1.  See also Thomas M’Crie, History of the Progress & Suppression of the Reformation in Italy in the Sixteenth Century (Edinburgh & London:  Wm. Blackwood & Sons, 1856).

30 Allix, p. 4.

31 George Stanley Faber, Personal letter to Dr. Gilly quoted in William Stephen Gilly, Vigilantius and His Times (London:  Seeley, Burnside, & Seeley, 1844)  Reprint.  pp.335-338.

32 Ibid.

33 Ibid.

34 Wylie, Vol. I, Book I, p. 19

35 Letter to Emperor Mauritius as recorded in Baronius, ad h. annum, n. 29, in Allix, Ancient Church of Piedmont, p. 35.

36 Peter Allix, Remarks upon the Ecclesiastical History of the Ancient Churches of the Albigenses, first published in 1692.  1989 Reprint of the Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1821 edition.

37 Allix, pp. 182-183.

38 See The Noble Lesson and other works, a catalog of which is recorded in Samuel Morland, The History of the Evangelical Churches of the Valleys of Piemont (Henry Hills, 1658)  Reprint.  Morland was sent by Oliver Cromwell to put pressure on the Duke of Savoy to stop the “bloudy massacre” of the Vaudois in 1655.  Morland received many original manuscripts of the Vaudois at that time and put them in the public library at the University of Cambridge, from which they shortly disappeared.  Morland in his two volume History was careful to quote widely from these original sources. 

40 Bury’s edition of Gibbon’s History, VI. p. 543

41 Adeney, The Greek and Eastern Churches, pp. 217-219

42 George Stanley Faber, The History of the Ancient Vallenses and Albigenses (London, 1828) Book II & III.

43 Such is the testimony of Gregory Magistos, A. D., 1058, whose history is one of the chief sources of information.  For the documentation see “Paulicians and Bogomil Churches” www.pbministries.org/History/John%20T.%20Christian/vol1/history_04.htm   4/8/2008

44 Wylie, Vol. III, Book 16th.

45 Revelation 17:3 Raynerius, a papal inquisitor who lived before the middle of the thirteenth century, testified of the Vallenses, “They hold the Church of Rome to be the whore of Babylon, and that all that obey her are damned….” Quoted in Allix, pp. 209-211.

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43 Responses to “History of the Early Church Invalidates Papal Claim of Apostolic Succession”

  1. Venus says:

    The Roman Catholic Church is not the true Church of God. They claim that they have been around since the beginning but none of there doctrines are biblical. Purgatory, Sacraments and the adoration of Mary is not mentioned in the Holy Bible. They even have there own Bible (Good News Bible) which is wrong because it is not the Holy Bible. Roman Catholics arn’t saved they are deceived. The Pope and its leaders will go to hell and so will its followers. This might sound harsh but it is the truth. I hope one day that the Catholics can open its eyes to the truth.

  2. kmerian says:

    The historical scholarship in this article is extremely lacking. His “examples of early believers testifying to the gospel” Have nothing to do with the notion that the Bible is the sole rule of faith.

    He strings together events seperated by 100′s of years to try to make a point that the church in northern Italy has always been protestant. He finally claims that the Waldenses (or Vaudois) were not started by Waldo. Interesting to note, however, is that even the Waldenses themselves don’t make this claim. They (rightfully ) claim that: “The Waldensian Church originated with the preaching of the merchant Valdo (Waldo of Lyons, from whom the church’s name originates), 1140 – 1217″ (from the website of the American Waldensian Society http://www.waldensian.org/aws03.php)

    The idea that St. Patrick was a protestant is laughable. We have writings written by him, attesting to his beliefs.

    The fact is, the points of this article could have been better made without resorting to poor scholarship.

  3. Ken Silva says:

    As you’ll see in THE HOLY AND CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH Dr. Walter Martin, a foremost authority in Comparative Religions whose doctorate was in the Church Fathers of the first 500 years of the Christian Church, correctly pointed out:

    Let us learn what history has to say. Before the year 590 AD, with the ascension of Gregory the First, there was no centralized Roman authority. It was not until the tenth century, when the eastern and western churches split, that there was anything known as the Roman Catholic Church—tenth century of the Christian Era—a thousand years after the fact (Roman Catholicism — Part 2 of 3, Walter Martin’s Religious InfoNet, cassette tape #4011, Side 1).

  4. kmerian says:

    Actually, his doctorate was in Education. And, he is wrong. The Catholic Church existed with a central authority in Rome from the earliest days of the Church. He is confusing the Great Schism, which saw the church break into the Latin and Orthodox branches of the church, with the establishment of a “roman” Catholic Church. Actually there was no “roman” Catholic Church, until the establishment of the “Anglican” Catholic church during the Reformation.

  5. Ben Davis says:

    You’re even an expert on Dr. Walter Martin, Kenneth? Very impressive. :P

  6. kmerian says:

    Nothing impressive, he has his biography online in many places.

  7. Don says:

    kmerian would argue black was white if you said otherwise.

  8. Don says:

    Come to think of it, wasn’t it Father Loyola who claimed it was our duty to believe the Pope if he said “black was white”? :D

  9. Ken Silva says:

    Well, sorry about that Kmer but I have the DVD program of The John Ankerberg Show where Dr. Martin specifically says exactly what I stated re. his doctorate. He was director of religious education at a church early in his ministry.

    Don,

    Very nice. :-)

  10. kmerian says:

    Oh, I realize he was a director of religious education. And if that is what he said on the John Ankerberg show, then I believe he did. However, none of his own websites say that is what his doctorate is in. Oh, well, even if it was. That does not affect my criticisms of his opinions.

    And, I just want people to know the truth about Catholicism and then make up their own minds. There is so much misinformation out there.

    BTW the thirteenth exercise of St. Ignatius Loyola is one of humility. Here it is in its entirety:
    Thirteenth Rule. To be right in everything, we ought always to hold that the white which I see, is black, if the Hierarchical Church so decides it, believing that between Christ our Lord, the Bridegroom, and the Church, His Bride, there is the same Spirit which governs and directs us for the salvation of our souls. Because by the same Spirit and our Lord Who gave the ten Commandments, our holy Mother the Church is directed and governed.

    The teaching of this rule is that there are times God may ask of us things that are difficult or impossible to accept. We should always submit to God, regardless of what man says.

  11. Ben Davis says:

    So, Rome could basically tell you to do anything, and you would have to submit, regardless?

  12. kmerian says:

    No. As a Christian I still have a conscience. If the church asked me to do something that was contrary to the Word of God. I would know that it was of men and not of God. Therefore I would not be bound to do it.

  13. Ben Davis says:

    And you would say that the order of authority a Roman Catholic must submit to is, first Scripture, then conscience, and lastly Rome?

  14. kmerian says:

    I am not sure what you mean by “Rome”. If you mean the Magesterium. Then the authorities for the Catholic is the Scriptures, Sacred Tradition, and the Magesterium equally. One cannot contradict the other. The Magesterium is the teaching authority of the church. Bishops are bound to follow it and Priests are bound to teach it correctly.

    If one of those three branches contradicts the other, then whatever is being asked or taught is obviously not of God.

  15. Ben Davis says:

    Yes, the Magisterium. So, on things that the Bible does not specially address, you must submit to the Pope, regardless of what it is he says? But first you judged what he says by your conscience, and then test it by Scripture, to be sure it is of God and not of man?

  16. kmerian says:

    We must submit to the Magesterium of which the Pope is a part. For example. The Bible does not directly mention abortion. But the Magesterium of the church, through the Pope teaches that it is murder and a sin against God. I submit to that teaching, as should every Catholic. Our conscience is strong, but it can be wrong. Teachings of the Magesterium are compared to scripture and Tradition, just as scriptural interpretations are challenged against Tradition and the Majesterium.

    Everything works together.

  17. Ben Davis says:

    I’m not sure if that answered my question. You said, “As a Christian I still have a conscience. If the church asked me to do something that was contrary to the Word of God. I would know that it was of men and not of God. Therefore I would not be bound to do it.”

    Do you test the teaching of the Pope to see whether or not it is contrary to the Word of God or not?

  18. Ben Davis says:

    And what about matters the Bible does not specifically address? For instance, the assumption of Mary or the immaculate conception? What confidence do you have that in these instances, they are not wrong? I mean, seeing as you admit the possibility of the Pope being mistaken.

  19. kmerian says:

    If the Pope was the only one teaching them, I would have my doubts. But both come from the Tradition of the Church. The Assumption having been preserved by the Jerusalem Church. The immaculate conception has also been taught by the Church for centuries. So, it was not Popes that came up with these.

  20. Ben Davis says:

    Wow. Ok… If the Magisterium says something, do you test it with Scripture to see whether or not it contradicts?

  21. kmerian says:

    Yes, but often that is not necessary as the canons or encyclicals are filled with scriptural references and supports.

  22. Ben Davis says:

    So, Scripture is infallible, but the Magisterium isn’t? Or do you test the teachings of Saint Paul to see whether or not he contradicts the Magisterium? How then could they be “equal authorities”? And if there is a contradiction between two, is the Magisterium required to submit to Scripture as though it were a higher authority? Or as you said, “Therefore I would not be bound to do it.”

  23. kmerian says:

    Here is where the Holy Spirit comes in. As a Catholic I believe that the Tradition and Majesterium cannot teach contrary to the Scriptures because all are protected by the Holy Spirit. The Magesterium when speaking in council or the Pope when speaking “ex cathedra” cannot err. because the same Holy Spirit that protects the Scriptures from error, protects them. Individual Bishops can and do err.

    For example, the Council of Trent is an example of the Magesterium speaking to the church.

  24. Ben Davis says:

    If that is what you believe, how do you make sense of comment #22?

    kmerian says:
    Yes, but often that is not necessary as the canons or encyclicals are filled with scriptural references and supports.

  25. Ken Silva says:

    “often that is not necessary as the canons or encyclicals are filled with scriptural references and supports.”

    So is the Watchtower of the JWs and the Ensign magazine of the LDS church.

  26. kmerian says:

    Ben,

    I am not sure I understand your question

    Ken,
    What is your point? So is the Journal of the SBC, so is your website. What is your point?

  27. Ben Davis says:

    No worries, kmerian. I think the point was made anyways. :)

  28. Venus says:

    Ken are you saying that the true church is the Holy Catholic Church not Roman Catholic Church – I have to say that there could be a possibility that the Roman Catholic Church could be the true Church. Notice how they both have the the word Catholic.
    They could be the true Church and the Church was taken over by Satan and its demons.
    Where is the true Church today? May be the Catholics are telling the truth?

  29. Ben Davis says:

    Venus,

    You might find this message by John MacArthur helpful.

  30. Ken Silva says:

    Venus,

    The word “Catholic” is the Greek word katholikos and it means “universal.” All Christians are in that “catholic” i.e. universal Church but it is not the Roman Catholic Church which apostatized centuries before God raised up His Reformers to return His catholic/universal Body of Christ back to proper Biblical doctrine.

    Dr. John MacAthur is dead on target when he calls the Church of Rome a front for the kingdom of Satan and I can tell you with certainty that God hates the Roman Catholic Church. Any Christians who have been saved by God in spite of Rome’s false gospel are compelled by 2 Corinthians 6:14-15 to come away from this unclean thing. Until they do they are in sin.

  31. kmerian says:

    Ken, I would be very careful in speaking for God. You cannot possibly know “with certainty” that God “hates” the Roman Catholic Church.

  32. Ben Davis says:

    We don’t preach the same gospel. It’s you or us…

  33. Venus says:

    I disagree with you Ken when you say Dr. John MacAthur is dead on target when he calls the Church of Rome a front for the kingdom of Satan and I can tell you with certainty that God hates the Roman Catholic Church. Any Christians who have been saved by God in spite of Rome’s false gospel are compelled by 2 Corinthians 6:14-15 to come away from this unclean thing. Until they do they are in sin. Dr John Macarthur is not an apostle therefore we shouldn’t believe a word he says he is a false leader and we should go by what the bible says.

    God the Son said that we should love one another and love thy neighbour. 2 Corinthians 5:14-15 arn’t God breathed words. If you say that I can tell you with certainty that God hates the Roman Catholic Church then you don’t know that God said in the Bible that we should love one another and love thy neighbour. God loves every one including the lost. Noone should try and be better than any one else and that is what 2 Corithians 6:14-15 is also saying.

    The word “Catholic” is the Greek word katholikos and it means “universal.” All Christians are in that “catholic” i.e. universal Church but it is not the Roman Catholic Church which apostatized centuries before God raised up His Reformers to return His catholic/universal Body of Christ back to proper Biblical doctrine.

    If you say that all Christians are in that Catholic Church then it must be true. The Roman Catholic Church and the Catholic Church are similar. Roman Catholic Church must be the true church after all it is the largest organisation and is the longest running church in history and has been taken over by Satan and its demons. I’d hate to be called Christian now i know that it is “Catholic” The Catholic Church is the biggest deceit in history and how do you know that your not being lied too.

  34. Venus says:

    Where is your proof when you say that but it is not the Roman Catholic Church which apostatized centuries before God raised up His Reformers to return His catholic/universal Body of Christ back to proper Biblical doctrine.

    Thank you.

  35. Ben Davis says:

    …all yours, Ken :)

  36. jfranklin6 says:

    Galatians 1:6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.

    The Roman Catholic church preaches a different gospel than Scripture does. Therefore Scripture says, which is to say God Almighty says, that the Roman Catholic church is accursed. This accursed is the greek Anathema. This is the same word used in the counsel of Trent to describe a person who believes that he is justified by faith alone.

    Again, the Roman Catholic church is doomed, accursed damned to destruction because she denies the very Gospel of Christ, and preaches another gospel.

    Pray for a Ninevite Revival, He may grant them repentance unto life.

  37. Venus says:

    Thanks J Franklin 6 that was easy to understand.

    The false Roman Catholic Church loves to mock Christians about there “Catholic” name but I believe that even though there are so many believers out there God still loves them.

    Ken, I wasn’t having a go at you I was just trying to understand what you wrote. It is nice talking to a pastor. I would still like you to answer my questions because I’m interested in hearing your thoughts about this topic.

  38. Ken Silva says:

    Venus,

    Not a problem. The information you ask for in in this piece:

    THE HOLY AND CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH

  39. Venus says:

    Thanks Ken that was an interesting article.

    There are so many false religions and lost souls out there. I wonder what will happen to them if God has a plan.

  40. Ken Silva says:

    Venus,

    Here’s the deal about false religions–”No, but the sacrifices of pagans are offered to demons, not to God, and I do not want you to be participants with demons.” (1Corinthians 10:20) You see these other religions are actually not sincerely seeking God–though people may think they are–God has told us who these misguided people actually serve.

    So His plan for those who are serving these demons is found here–”Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment.” (Hebrews 9:27) The tragic fact is that all who die apart from Jesus Christ will have sent themselves–with no second chance–to a literal place of conscious and eternal punishment our Creator Christ Jesus of Nazareth Himself called Hell.

    Now we can see why we need all the missionaries we can get to head to places where people need to hear the Gospel. And the good news is that often these people are as close to us as in the next room of our own homes. I pray this helps.

    T

  41. Venus says:

    Thanks Ken.

    It sure did help!

    God Bless.

  42. Ken Silva says:

    Venus,

    The Lord be praised. I’m glad.

    What people forget is that God tells us–”those who are in the flesh cannot please God.” (Romans 8:8). This is because He does not dwell in all men as so many believe–”However, you [who are born again] are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.” (Romans 8:9)

    This is what Jesus was talking about when He said that “flesh and blood” cannot enter the Kingdom of Heaven. The idea of being born again is not just something to do with a new attitude of following God; no, it is to literally be regenerated–recreated–inside–”Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creature; the old things passed away; behold, new things have come.” (2 Corinthians 5:17)

    Can you see the “if” there, it’s a condition as in inf you’re not in Christ then you are still on the broad path which ends in Hell no matter how good things you do on a human level may look to other human beings. Which brings us full circle to–”those who are in the flesh [not born again; not in Christ] cannot please God.”

    This is why we must preach the Gospel as lovingly, gently, and patiently as we can, to anyone who will listen because we can’t know for sure who is in Christ. Even if the person you speak with happens to be in Christ, even they will rejoice to hear the message once again by which God saved them. It’s win-win. :-)


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